akuma587 said:
halogamer1989 said:
akuma587 said:
The fact is that the Founding Fathers didn't distinguish between citizens and non-citizens in the relevant rights in the Bill of Rights. I don't see any words in there that say you have to be a citizen of the United States to qualify.
Eighth Amendment
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
Fifth Amendment
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." |
I would say we are at war and are in a time of public danger.
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When is the last time we had an attack on American soil? 2001? How do you think they defined War back then? You can't just define war however you want. There is no evidence that suggests they would have considered our current situation to be a war.
We are always in danger. There were more terrorist attacks on American soil in the 90's than there have been in the 2000's. You can't just throw away the Constitution because of perceived threats.
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You can worm your way around war.
You can't worm your way around ..... (or public danger).
With people trying to take bombs onto airplanes. Killing thousands of innocent civilians and attempting to take an entire industry down in the process. I would say there is great public danger in terrorists doing what they please. Perceived threats? There are plenty of 'real threats' against us every single day.
Edit : I wonder why there was more terrorist attacks on US soil in the 90s than in the 2000s? 
