Did Miss California lose because of her opinion on gay marriage?

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The Ghost of RubangB said:

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damkira said:
@Sepiroth

If you're black and know discrimination, then you should know better than to discriminate against other people. Gay people not being able to marry is the exact same thing as denying interracial couple the right to marry. Please tell me where anybody says gay people are "special?" We only want the same rights as everyone else.

There is no causal link between race and homosexuality issues.

Marriage is a definitional term that refers to the union of a man and a woman.  That definition has extreme importance to the majority of humanity.  Not one "right" is being argued against by a single person in this thread as far as I can see.

You're simply requesting something that simply doesn't apply to the homosexual community, and you make the request at the expense of arguably the most important instition on the planet.

And as has already been pointed out, special or not, you're actually requesting different rights.  Currently, (in civil union countries ESPECIALLY) we all have the same one ones.  You're just less happy with them than most.

There are a great many black homosexuals who disagree with you, and they don't see a difference between the people who hate them for their race and the people who hate them for their sexuality.  A black gay man could easily tell you that you don't know shit about discrimination like he does, and tell you you're "nothing special" the way you're talking down to gays right now.  When there are black gay men protesting the gay jokes of Eddie Murphy, yes there is a huge intersection of race, gender, and sexuality.

The modern American gay rights and women's rights movements grew directly out of the Civil Rights movement.

Lol.  Nothing you said remotely surpassed your original argument that the race debate is relevant because you said so.

Anyone could easily tell anyone anything else.  Are we now subdividing gays into white, black and asian to make it easier for you to paint your detractors as racists or bigots?  Personally, I view a person attacking the gay jokes of Eddy Murphy, as a person attacking the gay jokes of Eddy Murphy.  Their race is non-consequential.

The civil rights movement enjoyed broad support from all blacks and an enormous number of whites.  The gay marriage movement is largely seperate from the gay rights movement, the latter of which I am a part of.  The two have as little synonomy as the gay marriage issue does with the race issue.