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TheRealMafoo said:
akuma587 said:
Kasz216 said:

Why isn't food socialized then?

Food is much more important then healthcare for living.

 

The key factor is the nature of healthcare compared to food.  Healthcare is an "emergency" service like police protection, fire protection, natural disaster protection, national defense protection, etc.

 

In the US, healthcare as an emergency service is already given to you by law. The only thing up for discussion, is should you have to pay for it.

If you are homeless and have a gunshot wound, every Hospital in the US is required to treat you. There is no debtors prison in the US. All not paying your bill will do is put you in a situation where no one will loan you money.

Is being loaned money now a right that needs to be protected?

 

You still have to PAY for it out of your own pocket or else you are held financially liable and it will wreck your credit, they can attach liens to your house and foreclose on your property, etc.  Some jobs even require you to get a credit check, so it can affect much more than your ability to get loans.

Your argument is essentially like saying, "If you had to pay for police protection every time you wanted them to protect you, it wouldn't make any difference because the only consequence is people won't loan you money."

Some people don't seek emergency care and health services they need BECAUSE they know they will have to pay for it.  That is like not calling the fire department because you are worried it will cost more to pay the fire department than save your house.  Your suggestion is pretty much that government should charge people directly for everything because in the end all it will do is wreck your credit.

 



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