Did Miss California lose because of her opinion on gay marriage?

[The Ghost of RubangB]

@starcraft, I have listed places where gay marriage is now legal, where it has been legal in the past, and I can get more if you'd like. So stop using the word "always." You are not supporting an eternal tradition. Atheists get married too. Your dad did. I did. It's not a religious-only event.

And stop saying things like "any reasonable person" because that's a false appeal to authority and a thinly veiled insult at my intelligence for disagreeing with you.

Yes, supporting a tradition can be intolerant if it's an intolerant tradition. So yes, you can be a bigot for supporting a tradition. Antisemitism has been a tradition of Catholicism since the 12th century, and a tradition all across Europe and the Middle East for more than 2000 years. Supporting those traditions is bad. Just because something has been done for a very very long time (but not always and not everywhere and not by everyone and not by all religions), doesn't make it good or automatically deserving of my respect.

And I've already explained why the majority doesn't get to make laws that infringe on the rights of the minority. Our founding fathers saw that coming and created a system to stop that. Yeah we make mistakes, and yeah it takes us a while to fix them. So we end up with lawyers and judges that invoke religious authority to dictate secular law based on race. And now we end up with lawyers and judges that invoke religious authority to dictate secular law based on sexuality.

I, as a straight man, am angry that it is illegal for me, a straight man, to marry a man, straight or gay, that I don't love, while it is perfectly legal for me to marry an illegal immigrant to get her a green card, just because she has a uterus. I think marriage should be a personal issue and shouldn't be anybody else's business. The government doesn't tell me who to love or who to have sex with and they shouldn't tell me who to marry. That shouldn't be the government's job.

Marriage in the Old Testament was more like a reality show. Jacob tries to marry Rachel, but oh no watch out, her father switched her out for Leah, the ugly "fat cow" daughter, and tricked him into marrying the fat cow! Then he marries both! Then he has four wives! If that's the tradition you want to fight so hard to protect... uh, bigamy is illegal in America. So the government and the Bible look at marriage in different ways, and at divorce in different ways.