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starcraft said:
nojustno said:
wfz said:
Pics?

Anyways, that's pretty lame that she was booed off and called such names by people who are insecure and/or overly sensitive freaks.

It's her opinion and she's entitled to it, everyone else can **** off.

True, entitled 100%. She's still a bigot for having that opinion though and certainly didn't deserve to win.

Excuse me?  How is someone a bigot for agreeing with the majority of Americans and the VAST majority of humans worldwide?

Because the amount of people who support something has nothing to do with it's validity? Do you know what a logical fallacy is? You're using one, it's called ad populum. It doesn't matter how many people believe it. 

I have a serious, SERIOUS problem with governments anywhere that persecute gays, attack gays, or dont offer gays the same legal and economic entitlements that are offered to heterosexual couples.  But marriage is an entirely different beast.  For MILLENIA it has been the union of a man and a woman.

Who cares? I don't. There's no reason to inhibit gay marriage just to protect someone elses flawed concept. 

There is no sense in pretending that it has always been pretty.  There have been marriages for war, diplomacy, money and sex.  But at it's core marriage is and has always been about a man and a woman loving eachother formally recognising that fact before their peers and in many cases before their religion.

No. At 'it's core' marriage, was and always has been, a way to bind people legally, socially, or religiously. In our country it's a legal thing, so it should be defined as such. There's no secular argument against gay marriage that makes sense, there's no reason they shouldn't be allowed. They deserve equal right to marry someone they are attracted to, either both gay and straight marriages are called marriages, or they're both called civil unions.

  I might add, that marriage exists largely because of the support of religious infrastructure of all creeds, the same infrastructures that proponents of gay marriage are now attempting to silence and label as bigots.

Marriage exists because it's of benefit to people who are married. Gay people want the same benefits, and they want it to have the same name. It's only fair. As for people who are against that, they are bigots. Or maybe I should use a different word? Is assholes better? Douchebags? No, I'll stick with bigot.

I have every support for civil unions or equivelant economic and social contracts for gay and lesbian couples.  We as a society should not deny those benefits too people simply because of their sexual orientation.

Good.

But in my opinion, anyone that simply cannot understand why supporters of marriage as it has always been find the idea of gay marriage wrong or offensive needs to make an effort to re-examine the many perspectives of this issue.

I understand them, but their postition is illogical. They're trying to protect silly ideas, and there's no need to.

Anyone that feels they DO understand why supporters of gay marriage are offended and feel that it is simply because they are bigots, needs to realise their hypocracy,

I disagree. I'll call a bigot a bigot. You, just like the bigots you are supporting and defending, are doing so based on illogical reasons.