Sqrl said:
I don't want to speak for Kasz but I didn't take that from his comments at all. I absolutely think racism still exists and I don't think Kasz or myself has said otherwise. I don't think we believe racism is exists as a major component, feature, or part of these protests in any way though. Kasz has said that AA is a bad way to treat a symptom rather than addressing the problem and I've said that I think AA is reverse Racism. Kasz has explained himself pretty well but my logic is pretty simple: If a white man and a black man apply for a job and the policies of the employer dictate in ANY scenario that one should get a preference based in part or whole on the color of their skin...that is racism. We call it racism when a white man gets a job over a black man even subconsciously...but we call it affirmative action if the black man gets a job over the white man for the same reason? It's pretty clear to me that the way you combat racism in the interview room is by, to borrow the line, "not be judge by the color of their skin but by the content of their character". Affirmative action keeps race as part of the equation...when we should just have two people applying for a job affirmative action requires us to distinguish the two..it imposes an artificial difference when the point of the civil rights movement was to declare that people were, in fact, equal.
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Basically.
Nor does the data show that racism tends to have a big effect in outcome of how people are hired.
There are racists out there... but there aren't too many racists power brokers out there. The world is too competitive otherwise. People who refuse to hire the most talented people based on race won't get as good results. These people are screwed in a capitalist society.
Racism is also very closeminded... and being closeminded is just a recipe for failure when it comes to trying to get a management job.
White privilage isn't about people getting advantages because of their skin color.... so much as it is white people getting advantages because of who they know. A lot of jobs you apply for you find out through contacts.... white people tend to be related to other white people. So your Uncle may own a factory, or your uncles friend may own a factory, while a black persons uncle is more likely to work at that factory.
Which is once again... more wealth based then anything. Wealth based initatives and/or integrating society more... (which would likely require wealth based initatives) are the only ways to solve such problems.
