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akuma587 said:
I think it is naive to believe that you can't effectively fight terrorism while also upholding the Constitution. Or that we are fighting for anything meaningful if we don't uphold the Constitution during the times where it actually matters and those rights are in jeapordy.

I also think it is naive to believe that engaging in questionable military interrogation practices doesn't potentially create a greater risk of terrorist attacks in the future by providing a rallying point for terrorists. The things that happened at Abu Gharib were a terrorist dream. They could be used to convince even rational people that the United States was just as evil as the terrorists claimed.

You can't win the war if all you are concerned about is winning individual battles. You can win that battle but still lose the war.

 

 What you consider "humane" and "compassion", the terrorists consider a sign of weakness and an open invitation to attack.

You're like a sheep trying to convince a pack of wolves that eating grass is the way to go. The wolves just get a good chuuckle out of it before they eat you.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire