The Pirate Bay Trial

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jv103 said:

SlorgNet said:
File-sharing isn't stealing. It's making a perfect copy of something which already exists. The original is still there, in its pristine glory. Now if I claim that my new copy is my own work, that would be unjust, sure.

But that's not what Pirate Bay is doing. They're not downloading copies of Citizen Kane, burning DVDs, and selling them. They are simply providing links so that we, the people of planet Earth, can access media which other people have decided to share.

If that's a crime, then watching TV on a friend's TV set is a crime. Reading a library book is a crime. Buying a used CD is a crime. Using any idea, concept or innovation created by anyone, ever, is a crime.

I think you are implying because it's called "file-sharing" it's  somehow akin to sharing, which it really isn't. Sharing implies that you are giving up something of yours to someone else at a really basic level. However, in file sharing duplicates are made <-I think this is an issue with copyright. 1.I don't think the MPAA would have a problem with file sharing if when one "shared" a file it was removed from their computer to be transmitted to another person.  Of course this isn't the case because it's not about sharing, but duplicating and receiving something free which normally costs money.

Copyright law was a 19th century invention (if I'm not mistaken, which i could be) for books. This is when authorship became recognized because before this people would steal manuscripts, interpolate shit, change it and publish elsewhere. You can probably see the problems with this. Imagine that you wrote something or created something fabulous or even mediocre and then I get it from someone who is "sharing" and decided to put my name on it, change it or redistrubute it against your will. Is that sharing? This is a mindless rant.

 

2. I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, as I've done it myself. But at least don't play a semantics game in what you're doing and try to justif it. If you are stealing shit at least man up to it.

 

 

 

 

1. The MPAA has actually stated that in their view if you make mp 3 of your bought CD´s you are pirating and if you install the same song on different medias as computers or MP3 players you are infrining and pirating as you have to buy a copy for every device you want said product on and thats why the birth of DRM was concived. They have stated this several times as their opinion.

2. It´s not stealing it´s copying and you can buy the original if you like it to support the author and thats a big difference.

 

jv103 said:
Oh not to mention that something copyrighted is never actually owned by the purchaser, it is basically on loan and therefore you really don't have a right to even "share it." Though you make a good point about libraries.

 

 

I don´t know where you live but here when you buy something it´s yours and not on a loan.

According to you if I buy something it´s on loan (thats what rentals is for) then the company owning the product I bought can come home to me and say they want it back (even though i payed for it) cause according to them I am just loaning it and the loaning period is over when they decide.

When you buy something it´s yours, you don´t own the rights but the product is your and you can do what you want with it as long as you don´t copy it and make money of the copies.