TheRealMafoo said:
Not remotely true. Individuals got themselves in debt, and trouble. I didn't, as I am fiscally responsible, so not sure why I should blame myself for paying my bills. But let's look at what you just said. You think the problem is people borrowed money that was lent to them, and spent it with no regard for how they are going to pay it back? They took out way to much credit, to the point where one day, they couldn't get more, and all there debts piled up, and became financially ruined. To the individuals that did this, I agree. They screwed themselves up. The problem is, I don't really care about them. It's a free country, You want to fuck your life up, go ahead. What I care about, is my government doing the exact same thing. We have borrowed trillions from China, spent even more then we borrowed, with no plan to pay it back. Bush did that. Now the new guy is in office, and what does he want to do? Keep spending on all the things Bush spent on (that we can't afford), and explode government spending to heights never seen before in any time. People need to stop acting like it's no big deal. Then again, as I saw in another thread, no one on this site makes any money. When it's not your money, you tend to care less about it.
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A people of bad credit and debt yields a government that does the same. How do you change that when the problem is with the people in general. Problem is money is power and power corrupts while absolute power corrupts absolutely. You don't want them to do the exact thing as the people but is that phsyically possible. It's quite possible the entire system is broken from the beginning.
You see I agree with people need to stop acting like it's no big deal. I take that a step further. I won't people like you and the rest of America to stop pretending the problem is something so simple as government spending. Cut the bullshit for once in your life and look at the big picture. If you really think the entire economy can be completely trampled by 2 presidents who compared to leaders in history are weak, then you aren't looking at the real problem. It's a big deal but you don't know what the problem is.
You and the rest of this country act as if they can point to something and use it as a scapegoat to the real problem: general mainstream American fear to capitalism. You don't trust these corporations or the government when all of our beliefs (laizzes faire capitalism and representative democracy) are based on this trust with a system of checks and balances. Thus you ruin it. They complain every time the bust of a "boom and bust cycle" of capitalism occurs and cause this country to move further to the left. They accept socialist and left winged regulations into the economy such as the Federal Reserve, minimum wage, trust busters, anti-monopolies, and more recently financially supporting businesses who should have burned to the ground with their errors.
Then you have the nerve to tell me that I don't know this is a big deal when the rest of this country would willingly accept a dictator to bring us into socialism over a true capitalist representative democratic president. Like the rest of this country, we let the media tell us what the problems are and then we complain about it. But we don't know what the problems are and we don't have values anymore that resembled that of what the country was founded on. Sure they will complain now about government spending being too much but only becuase it doesn't help their interests. As soon as they get into financial trouble they'll all cry to the government... including you. That's the funny thing about all these "anti-American" values that get into our system. Something scares the people and fear causes these thigns to happen. Ya'll took my liberty away after 9/11 and now you want to take away my capitalist system. This is a great quote from Benjamin Franklin:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"
When the rest of this country is ready to get over their fears and let someone other than mainstream media tell them how to think, then these tea parties will mean something. When they say no to paying income taxes then they'll truly know what the problem is. Until then all I see is a nation of sheep.
(part of a piece I wrote yesterday which I'll translate for here soon)
