Rath said:
Seriously? You're fearmongering, one of those people who make out terrorism to be a bigger threat than it is just so things like torture of detainees can go ahead. Chances are well and truly against me you or anybody on this forum ever dieing of terrorism, whether we torture people or not. Is it worth throwing away the rights that actually make the Western countries better nations to live in just to have a minutely increased chance of foiling a terrorist plot?
Is it really fear mongering? At any given time there are hundreds of terror cells in the US or around the world. It's not about a few thousand people losing their lives due to Terrorist attacks. It's the constant threat and paranoia that it creates. (See Israel on a daily basis). It's the devastation of public confidence . (How much money was lost as a result of 9/11, look it up). Our Airline industries still haven't fully recovered from that.
@Rpruett. Yes so holding men indefinately and torturing them isn't breaching their right to habeus corpus or a trial at all now is it? Depends on the circumstances of their capture. I'm not the one using the broad brush. You are. If they have information that deals with national security of citizens of this country? We have a right to know what it is and stop something of that nature from occurring within reason.
Edit: Also I'm not an American and I'm definately not pro-constitution =P. Its just that the right wing of politics generally justifies itself by going on about how it is pro-constitution and then ignores the bill of rights half the time. Both sides of the aisle are hypocritical and contradict themselves. This isn't a Right wing phenomenon. |







