| The Ghost of RubangB said: The first 6 words were "Waterboarding is a form of torture." That's what you should be arguing, if your argument is in fact that waterboarding is not torture. My argument is that waterboarding is torture. Obama and McCain both agreed on this during the debates. |
Go read the discussion section of the wikipedia entry. Shocking how they exist and how there can be debates on what is included.
Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
— Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire
