| h2dk said: This is all well and good (very good post, thanks) however, you have failed to take in to account that 2 of the top selling games for the Wii every month are "free" games. Wii Sports comes with the console, yet it is counted in the software total. Wii Play comes with a Wiimote ($40 for a Wiimote or $50 for Wiimote w/ game is a no brainer).
Lets take those "games" out and look at those same weeks in July Week1 447,597 - 94,395 - 47,528 = 305,674 Week2 429,278 - 103,339 - 57,698 = 268,241 Week3 444,818 - 110,984 - 73,180 = 260,654 Week4 457,893 - 107,938 - 72,418 = 277,537 or roughly 278,000 per week, nearly 100,000 per week less than the 360 in it's first July. Now, take into account that by the end of the 360's first July, approximately 2,209,000 units were sold compared to Wii by the end of its first July has sold approximately 3,233,000 units. The Wii had 50% more units on the market in the same time period, but sold 25% fewer games. (Even if you keep Wii Play units counted, the average is still below 350,000 per week)
(If you do this for the past 10 weeks, the average is under 375,000 (under 420,000 including Wii Play))
I know we can argue semantics on what is considered a software sale, but if you truly want to compare apples to apples this is where it is at. If we were to look at 3rd party sales alone, the difference would be staggering. |
Lol, it sounds like you just want to rationalize this however you can. Sales data is sales data. If you want to play with one side of it to make it worse then I think that speaks for itself pretty clearly as to what your real goal is here.
The fact is that people buy the Wii FOR Wii Sports. And while Wii Play may come with a remote and be responsible for enticing people to buy it, this is no different than any other bundle or package but we are supposed to discount it because it is conveniant for you? The fact is that Wii=motes are $40 and Wii Play is $50. So people can get Wii-motes cheaper if they aren't interested in the game. Would you discount Wii-Play's sales if it sold for $10 by itself? Considering that people *choose* to pay an extra $10 to buy that remote with the game I don't see why those sales should be subtracted out. If they don't want Wii Play they can keep their $10. Sorry but you have "zero" good arguments of why to discount those sales particularly Wii Sports.
@Legend11,
If you think they made madden into an accessible game then we differ in opinion right there. I own Madden '07 and have spent some time playing Madden '08 and quite honestly I think Madden '08 was a step backwards not forwards. So if the fact that people aren't buying Madden '08 is a major point for your argument you will have to excuse me if I just don't buy it.
I really don't follow your logic thus far either. You gave naznatips a hard time after he listed several games that had huge budgets on the 360 yet bombed and in the same post you mention the Wii version of Madden which was bad and bombed.
It seems we agree that the 3rd Party devs are looking to see which games bomb, but I think they are capable of noticing that the crap games are the ones that are failing and the good games are the ones that are succeeding. Boogie flops while Metroid sells well, that is not a hard equation to figure out from a developer standpoint.
Make good game = make good money








