naznatips said:
Thanks, I was hoping someone would take the bait. If Legend won't step up to the debate then at least I can have some fun with you. Hrmm. My point was that people won't buy bad Wii games, but would instead buy good 360 games. You brought up Madden as an example. Lets take a look at Madden's scores shall we? Madden 08 Xbox 360 Gamerankings average 83% I wonder why people would buy the Xbox 360 version more? hehe. Again, we are comparing an American market with many more Xbox 360 owners. So, do you have another example? I mean, I can certainly pull up examples of quite a few high budget Xbox 360 games that flopped. After all, what third parties should really be concerned about is investing a lot of money in a game that doesn't sell. The Wii costs signifficantly less to develop for, so much fewer copies would have to be sold to make a profit. Let's take a look shall we: -The Darkness scored an 83% on Gamerankings and sold .24 million copies. Each one of these games cost more than any 3rd party Wii game to develop. Some of them represent gigantic losses for their companies. Stranglehold cost more than most 3rd party Wii games combined. When we talk about where 3rd party support will go, we can't look at just raw sales figures. A the average Wii game costs less than half as much as the average 360 game to develop. When you consider that, the 360 is hardly the "safe money" that you and Legend want to make it out to be. Yes, some good games have sold very well on the 360 but many haven't even broke .5 million, which is far below the profit mark for an Xbox 360 game. |
you really want to use gamerankings for the basis of your argument? cause I'm sure everyone that bought Madden looked at the reviews first (as if 77.5 were bad) right? What about the "revolutionary" controls?
Rayman 76.5
Wii Sports 76.4
Elebits 75.4
Excite Truck 75.0
Big Brain Acedemy 70.0
Red Steel 65.0
Mario Party 8 64.0
Cooking Mama 62.0
Wii Play 60.2
Pokemon Battle Revolution 57.1
How do you explain the sales of those then? If 77.5 is bad, then some of these are pure crap. I say because none of them are targeted at the 360 demographic, i.e. they are targeted at a younger audience (yes, I know, lots of adults buy and play them, blah, blah, blah...)
Which brings me back to my original point in this whole discussion...a larger percentage of 360 owners have disposable income to throw at games, where as a good chunk of the Wii's targeted market doesn't have an income. Therefore "true" software sales (i.e. not "freebies") will continue to be led by the 360 until the Wii has a significant install base lead (at least twice).
(And I don't want to hear how the 360 has more consoles on the market, etc. If you take off Wii Play and Wii Sports, the PS2 is outselling the Wii in software, yet being dominated by the 360)
The Darkness and Stranglehold are not 360 exclusives and are "just another fps", yet still selling as much or more than most Wii 3rd party games.
Viva Pinata was targeted for the "nintendo" market, hence it's flop on the 360 (hello DS)
Oh, and Burnout: Revenge? Please, that made nothing but money for EA. It was out on the Xbox months before the 360...380,000 units purchased, most probably for a second time...
Thanks, it has been fun
