Arguments Against God

[Strategyking92]

WessleWoggle said:

Strategyking92 said:

ManusJustus said:

Strategyking92 said:
I don't think you really grasp the concept of the christian god.
God said he created man in his image.. So god is human-like if you believe in the bible. However, he is also presented as an omniscient being, while having interest in a select few individuals. You could, however, make the argument that he needed to have interest in these individuals for people to have faith that he exists through religion spreading. As for god being cruel in the old testament, he was only testing humanity and punishing the wicked.
He continues to punish the wicked in the new testament, but not in his godly form.

And since christianity, judaism, and islam make almost all of the major world religions, I am confident with the "everything happens for a reason" belief over pure dumb luck.

Man's image came from billions of years of evolution.   And I dont think God (assuming he created the universe) would be made of matter or energy (since he created them) so its hard to think of him as actually having an image anyway.  Unless he created matter and energy them molded himself into some form of it, but why would he do that?

Why would God's personality change from Old to New Testament?  Wouldnt an all powerful and all knowing being not need to learn from experience?

 

 

Well it could vary I suppose. Who's to say the creation story didn't happen in some form? While i'm not so sure about that, the evolution theory, and the creation theory have possibilities in them that humans were made in gods image. Well, they don't refute them. I mean, what if humans gradually changed into gods image? But because god doesn't have a physical image, you might compare his form to a cloud. Up close it looks like nothing, but from far away it might look like a dragon or something. I just don't think anybody can possibly imagine the big picture of a god, or how one can exist.

I think his personality stayed the same, it's just that he did not need to test free will, or the events aren't mentioned in the NT, due to the focus being on jesus and his message of peace. Although you can still find references where gods will is enacted.

Here's another question also: Since god is omniscient, wouldn't he need to know his own limits (or in humans case, free will). And since he is omniscient, he both would and would not know. Why would he create humans in the first place? All I can come up with is that god has a sort of self awareness, and that since humans are created in his image, he learns while being omniscient. You know, like when a guy pokes a dead cow with a stick even though he knows the cow is dead. Pointless, really, but what is existance something happening?

You seem to assume that the god of everything, directly made humans... Baseless assumtion.

We could have been created by a lesser god or alien race.

 

 

Nope. There is one god, since he would have to make those "lesser gods". But a god cannot be made by a god, so those lesser gods would not be gods. It's like saying (for a lack of a better analogy) an immovable rock can make another immovable rock in the same place.

And while I do think alien life is possible (I actually hope it exists) I don't think it's possible for them to have that high level of technology. I also just that it sounds ridiculous.