Rath said:
WessleWoggle said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
WessleWoggle said:
It's true we don't know when or if a baby develops a concept of life, but you could argue it has a primal concept of life, on the level of any other non-human fetus.
But I think perception of life and death on the same conceptual level as a human, takes place outside the womb, in the human world, with a concious introspective level of thought. Death is only horrible if you think "I'm dying", do you think fetuses think that or just feel pain and panic?
Materialistically speaking there's no intristic value, nothing precious about life, we're just a reaction. Souls are unproven.
If you believe in souls, can't they find another body? What do you believe about souls?
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I'll answer the soul question first. I don't believe that you are necessarily a soul floating around looking for a body, but more along the lines of the judeo-christian ideology. Creation in conception. Obviously this opinion is more based on faith, because we cannot prove or disprove but only theorize.
I do believe there is some concept of the fetus knowing that they are dying which is why earliest recorded at 12 weeks the baby starts to panic and avoid being aborted. Wether that happens even earlier is unknown as I'm not sure if there is any ultrasound video,ect of this being done.
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Why do you think they know they're dying? They're just escaping pain.
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Most likely (although not certainly) a fetus cannot feel pain until after 26 weeks. Parts of the brain that are required to interpret pain have not developed until that point.
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Okay, then it's panic minus the pain.
Even without pain there's still awareness that something fucked up is happening.
