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WessleWoggle on 14 April 2009
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786_ali said:
WessleWoggle said:
786_ali said:
WessleWoggle said:
786_ali said:
WessleWoggle said:
786_ali said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOS9q77I3oU

http://www.islam101.com/tauheed/provingGodExists.htm

no one's replying? hmmm...

About the video, what makes any of those verses specific enough to make you think they are a reference to scientific theories?

If you start with the presumption that a book has a message, you'll find one.

 

You're not going to believe are you? No matter what is said, you won't believe it

 

 

 

Nope, I will believe when something is evident by it's self, not evident only when you have a certain presumption.

If the Quran said, everything was in one point then started to expand, hey, then I might say it has some vague reference to the big bang. Does it say that?

But, even if it did have a vague reference to something from science, how does it prove it came from the God who created everything, and not an alien or spirit?

The Q'uran says that it came from Allah. Prophet Muhammad was illieterate.

 

Where do you get that from.

Even if Muhammad was illiterate, how does it prove he got his knowledge from the creator of everything, and not an alien, or spirit, or lesser god?

 

Everybody with any knowledge about the Prophet knows that he was illiterate. Google it if you do not believe me. The Q'uran states that Allah has sent down this book and that Allah is the only God. If it wasn't Allah who sent it down then it would not say such things

 

Okay, googled, confirmed.

But the bible states that God sent down this book and is the only God too...

The Al-Jilwah, states that:

"I will not give my rights to other gods. I have allowed the creation of four substances, four times and four corners; because they are necessary things for creatures."

"No god has a right to interfere in my affairs, and I have made it an imperative rule that everyone shall refrain from worshipping all gods. All of the books of those who are without are altered by them; and they have declined from them, although they were written by the prophets and the apostles."

"The books of Jews, Christians and Muslims, as of those who are without, accept in a sense, i.e., so far as they agree with and conform to my statutes. Whatsoever is contrary to these, they have altered; do not accept it. Three things are against me and I hate three things. But those who keep my secrets shall receive the fulfillment of my promises. Those who suffer for my sake I will surely reward in one of the worlds."

"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book; I direct aright my beloved and chosen ones by unseen means. "

"All of the books of those who are without are altered by them; and they have declined from them, although they were written by the prophets and the apostles. That there are interpolations is seen in the fact that each sect endeavors to prove that the others are wrong and to destroy their books."

 

Why should I believe your holy book, Quran, over this holy book, Al-Jilwah?