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786_ali said:
WessleWoggle said:
786_ali said:
alekth said:
JRPG said:
appolose said:
Prove to me anything exists.
Actually, don't, I've been arguing about that idea for 2 weeks with Final-Fan now :P

 

Trying to prove wether God exists or not is like trying to prove to a blind person that colors exist.

If you can't see it you either have faith thats it exists or you refuse to belive it exists.

If I find an unicorn in the woods and bring it along (and prove it's not a hoax), the existance of unicorns will be proven. Maybe someone who believed in unicorns before seeing the real one will have their faith confirmed, and people who deny unicorns will be forced to admit that they do exist. There might or might not be any scientific explanation for a while on them.
And especially if you do consider the bible etc to have been written by man, none of these gods is more likely to exist than unicorns.


Well, that's one sort of proof.


A blind person can be convinced about the existance of colours even if they can't see them because all the scientific explanation and proof on how this works are present. That's another sort of proof.

 

For gods so far, we have nothing.

 

The Q'uran is not man-made. That is a fact, as Prophet Muhammed was not literate. In the Q'uran many things have been stated which are being discovered now after thousands of years. I know for a fact that Allah exists.

 

 

Knowing your god exists is useless in argumentation if you can't prove it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOS9q77I3oU

http://www.islam101.com/tauheed/provingGodExists.htm

 

I haven't watched the video yet, but I have some things to say about the web page.

"At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat"

False. Few people thought that.

"The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation."

False, it's not proven that they didn't know those things. There were numerous theories back then, just as there are now. Also, who's to say the knowledge came from God, and not a higher lifeform from outer space, or a spirit being that is not all powerful?

"It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine."

False.

"The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the ‘CREATOR’, the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is ‘God’, or more appropriate in the Arabic language, ‘ALLAH’."

False, that's not the only logical answer. You don't need to have made the whole universe to know things.

"Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. "

Francis Bacon is false. In depth study of science doesn't make someone a believer. In depth knowledge of science should make you an agnostic.