Arguments Against God

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Kasz216 said:

WessleWoggle said:

Kasz216 said:

WessleWoggle said:

Argument against theistic god of religions: No proof

Argument against a loving god that created everything: Suffering

Argument against the unknowable deist god: No proof

I don't know.  Without suffering there is no free will.

Without free will there is no reason to create people since they all just end up the same or as mindless puppets.

Creating a world where everything is equal and everything good gets a good reward, and everything bad gets a bad reward in effect creates a screen saver.

 

That's why it's an argument against a loving god. A loving god is not a balanced god.

 

I don't follow.  What's more loving then giving people a situation where they can grow into their own person?

Okay, you don't follow. I'll draw it all out.

I said suffering was proof against a loving god. You said without suffering there is no free will. I'll argue that now even though I chose not to previously. First off what leads you to believe we have free will? Our will is influenced by our experiences, it's not free. With or without suffering, there's no such thing as free will.

As for my statement, I forget what I was thinking when I wrote that. The God of everything, from our human perception, seems to have made the world neither loving nor balanced. The world and universe are unfair, unbalanced. For there to be balance it has to be in another life, and the afterlife is unproven, so that's proof againt a loving god. Until we die a truly find out.

"What's more loving then giving people a situation where they can grow into their own person?"

Giving them a situation where they can all grow into gods of course. But who's to say us humans can't do that?