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Kasz216 on 13 April 2009
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halogamer1989 said:
City17 said:
Kasz216 said:
City17 said:
Kasz216 said:
You know who started to get the "American Union" in process.

George W. Bush. That's partially why his Illegal Immigration policy was so far away from the rest of the Neo-Cons.

So i don't expect much progress for a while. Probably not until America loses a lot more of it's industrail base.

Well and they'll have to get those mexican drug wars and other such civil problems underway.

Plus Canada seems pretty resentful fo the US for whatever reason. So i'm sure terms would have to be reasonable to them unless we went the route of the EU with a loose alliance first.

 

 

Well we didn't resist NAFTA very much even though the major concensus was that it would be harder on us economy wise in the long run...

Major consensus among the people...

Most of the economists loved the idea.  Espiecally left wing ones.  Clinton after all was a "Big Buisness" Democrat.

He did it to please the buisnesses and as a first step to transition us out of a labor intensive country and to push us even more towards the service industries.

It really wasn't about a NAU.  It was just what economists at the time thought was a good idea.  "You'll hurt a bit and be better off in the future."

It's still what most economists believe... though some more conversvative ones have backed off it.

 

Economists make me laugh.  Just like Pachter ;) 

I believe it is a debate between protectionism and free-trade.  I favor free trade but between sovereign nations and not supranational entities, i.e. the EU, AU, Asian U, SAU, etc.

 

The funny part is.  It's hard to tell who's on what side on it.   Most polticians are Free Trade mostly.  Even McCain was mostly.

Really the only people not Free trade are going to be Union Democrats and Oldschool Conservatives.