Has the Xbox 360 accepted defeat in 2009?

[Rpruett]

Onyxmeth said:

Rpruett said:

Onyxmeth said:

If we're talking about "defeat" then I assume this is regarding software sales. I might be getting this thread wrong, but I see this as quite the opposite scenario. What exactly does Sony have in their PS3 lineup to go up against Halo 3: ODST? We can make quips all day about it being an expansion pack, 2/3rds of a game, etc. etc. but good odds say that expansion pack, with it's likely very low development costs, is getting to outsell and take in more profit than every Sony published title this year. From Microsoft's point of view, I'm sure that is in no way accepting defeat.

From a fanboy "This lineup is better than your lineup" scenario, I don't give a shit enough to comment.

 

I assumed this was more of "defeat" in the sense of a weaker catalog of games due to be released this year for their consumers to buy.  As in, if you were looking to purchase a system today and were interested in some upcoming titles...Which system would appeal to you more? 

But I don't know.  Your scenario could very well be likely as well.

Exactly what is weak about the catalog though? I see sales potential from the already announced games, and the speculative games like Forza 3 which may or may not be real. Ultimately it's sales that will decide what made customers go out to buy consoles,

I think speaking objectively,  I can say that the 360's lineup is a little lean at the moment.  I mean what definitive games are set to release from here until Christmas?  I think if you talk with 360 fans....They will be more than a little disappointed if essentially what we know now is all that ends up being released.

I totally disagree with the sales part though.  Customers don't care about sales nearly as much when making a purchase. Especially if many of which are front loaded onto one game.  (Which at this juncture it appears ODST would hold that title). For example,  If I'm looking to buy a 360...I already know Halo 3 rules and I want to purchase it if I get a 360 regardless an expansion pack for it isn't going to push me one way or another?  

I think what atleast appears weak to many (Myself included) is that the shining star of that lineup isn't even a full priced game?  I mean which I know will sell well but beyond that what is there?

 

and Halo 3: ODST has more of a chance of doing that than any PS3 title I know of coming out in 2009 does. Granted, this is under the assumption that GT5 doesn't release this year, otherwise my opinion flips. We can go on all day about Heavy Rain and Infamous but those are likely to be non-factors, same as Valkyria Chronicles, Motorstorm 2 and SOCOM: Confrontation were. Good games that look good when compiling a list of titles, but ultimately matter not in the big scheme of things.

Oh I agree.  Sales wise ODST is going to be gigantic.  Although much of that IMHO is going to the already solid Halo fanbase contained on the 360.   I think the 360's lineup is shallow though for this reason.  ODST isn't going to be a full game so I mean when your largest title is essentially an expansion pack for a pre-existing title. 

That's how I took the thread title atleast. I mean ODST I have no doubt will sell better than anything on the PS3 (barring GT5 or something of that ilk) .  But more than that is....Halo ODST....and ??  

 

I also have something to add that might be telling. Sony is publishing two sequels this year to two previous titles from that much sadder time in 2007, which are Uncharted 2 and Ratchet and Clank: Crack in Time. Normal trends show that comparable sales should be evident, however, the two other Sony published titles from early on in the lifespan, Motorstorm and Resistance both had sequels that tanked hard in comparison. It's possible we may see a repeat of that.

 

Plausible but let's be honest with the quality of games.  Motorstorm and Resistance were launch titles.  I mean if you owned a PS3 in the first 6 months or so,  those were the only 2 games I would have recommended to anybody and while good at the time,  they certainly were 'launch titles'.    Which inevitably leads to the disappointment factor.

Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted  were actually successful on their own merits and escaped that 'launch title' stigma or negative initial impression or inflated sales because it's the only decent game to play.