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puffy on 13 April 2009
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Rpruett said:
786_ali said:
Rpruett said:
786_ali said:
puffy said:
786_ali said:
puffy said:
TheRealMafoo said:
786_ali said:

Every civilisation since the first man has had a religion, you can't just dismiss it like that.

I'm 100% sure that both exist

 

Funny, this is one of the reasons I think religion is false. If everyone believes in it, and everyone believes something different, then it's more likely that humans are driven to believe in something, then it is that any of it's actually true.

 

 

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I'm not going to turn this into a religion-preaching thread, so I won't comment on your ignorance and false-logic

 

 

 

I'm currently studying the first known religions in Egypt and Mesopotamia as my breadth subject for my Bachelor of Science so please don't dare call me ignorant. That fact that humans have invented religion throughout time suggests that they've always wanted to believe that something happens to their loved ones after they die, it's human instinct really. It was also used to explain things that couldn't be explained and to take power over people by priests or kings. 

The ancient Egyptians thought that when you died, your heart would be weighed against a feather and if it was heavier then your heart was heavy because you lead a bad life, therefore you could not go on to the afterlife. They prepared meals for their dead kings when they were dead thinking that they needed this for the afterlife, they buried them with boats because they saw the sky as a celestial ocean that the kings would travel. 

They had many gods but the Egyptians also had the first monotheistic religion in which they worshipped Aten the solar disk (the sun). Tutankaten then changed the religion back to what it was previously with the god Amun reinstated as the supreme diety and he changed his name to Tutankamun. The Greeks had a similar religeous system of many gods but a monotheistic approach has been adopted in modern times..

I think with all of the evidence we have today to point to things happening differently than what is said in the religious texts and the ability to reflect on the past and see that humans have had the nature to explain things in terms of supernatural forces, it's not the most solid of ground to stand on anymore..Many things in the bible have been scientifically explained and I think it was the famous Moses parting the water that was proven to actually be an area of low tide that would have occured in the right general area at the time that it was said to have happened.. So a lot of over exaggeration and books written many many years ago, compiled by someone who didn't know these people, who knows what he might have added in or edited slightly..

I'm not against people believing and a god could indeed exist with an after life etc but I don't think people should base their entire lives around it..

I'm out of this thread. This is heading towards a flamewar fast, with a few claiming that all relgions are made up

 

I think he gave a pretty well thought out response?  No one is technically right or wrong in this discussion as there is no proof of either side.

 

how is basing a claim, that all religions are made up, on a few religions well thought out. You may not think there is a right or wrong here, but at least don't come out claiming all religions are fake

 

He didn't say all religions are made up.  He said Humans have invented religions since the beginning of time (Which they have).  Proving the point that people want 'something' to believe in.  Whether it's The great Tiki God or the Sun God or whatever.    He said in his opinion that in today's climate a lot of the 'religious' things are unclear.   Again, people explain the unexplainable by supernatural.  This isn't some crazy thing.   That's why Rain dances came about and sacrifices, etc. 

The more we understand, the more ridiculous certain things become.  (Like Rain Dancing, etc).

 

 

You said it perfectly, thank you :)