Is abortion a crime against humanity?

[Onyxmeth]

Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Onyxmeth said:

Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Well, I posted some pictures below, and I'm warning they are graphic. The reason for this is for some people here who are pro-choice and have not seen what an aborted baby looks like.

The pictures are disturbing, but so is the fact that you couldn't present a sound argument against abortion, and felt the need to resort to pictures. If you truly believe in something then at least do your best. This is laziness and borderline offensive. Pro-choice is not pro-abortion. I am pro-choice and I can't stand abortion. Sometimes though it's not always feasible for the world to revolve around our personal moral standards. We must bend to give others the rights they deserve, while still not agreeing with the choices they make.

To further my point, I find suicide repugnant but it's your individual choice to do it. Now I can be shown a picture of a man with no face after shooting himself with a sawed off shotgun and be horrified by it, but that isn't going to change my opinion that he has the right to be that stupid.

@Bursche-No problem. I found the link very interesting myself.

 

I'll comment on the suicide analogy first. The difference is the baby does not have the "choice" wether he or she wants to be aborted. It is other people making that decision for them concerning thier life. While suicide....

Now one point of your statement I really liked is when you said "We must bend to give others the rights they deserve, while still not agreeing with the choices they make." So why not bend our personal beliefs to give that unborn child's "rights" it deserve to life instead of taking it away because of the selfish ideology of others. No matter of how you look at it, it's a living human being regardless of which stage of development he or she is in.

It wasn't being lazy that made me post the pictures and while offensive they serve a purpose. Most people go into the argument of abortion without seeing the actual procedure (which I decided against posting a video) or what happens to the baby and develope thier opiniopns by what the media says or by the opinions of others. 

 

Have you ever stopped to think why the fetus doesn't have a choice? I mean even an infant has choices. Could it be that the fetus lacks the ability to have choice because it lacks the necessary brain functions? Hey look at people on life support. They don't have choices either. Guess who makes their choices for them. Other people.

Why would I need to bend my personal beliefs to give an unborn child it's rights? I've already made it abundantly clear I am 100% against abortion. I despise it. However a fetus 20 weeks of sooner(my personal cutoff) is a grey area as to whether it has human rights. If we give rights to the fetus, then where do we stop? Do we give rights to the sperm? How do we deal with condoms, birth control asnd the morning after pill?

Hypothetical scenario: A pregnant woman is going to die if she goes through with her pregnancy. There are two choices. Save the mother or save the baby. Who gets to choose? Now remember under your definition, both the mother and the fetus have human rights. Who gets to choose which person gets saved? Is it the mother? If so, then I implore why the mother cannot terminate a pregnancy that is not in the stages of premature birth?

Your laziness with the pictures came from how audacious your thinking is. You assume that a person that is pro-choice, like myself, or Mafoo, or many others, automatically approve of abortion. That we cherish it. That possibly we would hate abortion if somehow we could see photographic evidence of the horrors of it. Newsflash: I hate abortion. Mafoo hates abortion. Many others hate abortion. I look down on people that go through with it as a means to get out of responsibility. I do not need photos that I find sickening to let me know I hate abortion. I'm aware of it. That doesn't mean some irresponsible bitch doesn't deserve to have the right to fuck her life up by doing it.