Better for all, Capitalism or Socialism?

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mrstickball said:
Am I the only one that finds it odd that the only examples of properly run countries with massive social programs are infinitely smaller than America?  Denmark is about 1.8% the size of America (by population). You don't think that has *something* good to do with how their state is run?

And I also find it strange that people are so willing to have their freedoms (choices in education, healthcare, and other provisions) taken away, yet decry the same governments for the notion of changing abortion, gay marriage, and other laws.

1. There is no reason to believe that economics behaves differently between two full scale examples.  If you do believe so, then there is really no reason to argue because America is the only example of a first world country with a large population.  I guess a better argument for you would be that the there's a population size that, if a country surpasses it, it is unable to govern efficiently.

2. No one is taking your freedom of choice away.  You can go to whatever school you want, you can go to whatever hospital or doctor you want (more freedom than many American healthcare providers), and you have to option to pay for these services yourself in the private market.  The only difference is the option to have the government fund your education and healthcare.