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TheRealMafoo on 12 April 2009
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SciFiBoy said:
Kasz216 said:
Depends on the Healthcare and the country.

In the US for example the government is supposed to protect 3 main rights.

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Healthcare falls under both Life and the Pursuit of Happiness.


Healthcare that perserves Life is a right.

Elective healthcare is happiness... and not the pursuit of it.

So.... Heart surgery = Right.
Plastic Surgery = Not a Right.

Furthermore how it is paid for is an issue. Since Progressive taxation would be a violation of "Liberty".

As Liberty should include everyone being treated as equals.

 

you gotta be careful with elective healthcare, plastic surgery i can agree with you on though

PT is the only way to pay for it, flat tax would mean the poor pay more than they can afford (if you have state healthcare) or they dont get healthcare, which again is not fair on the poor, so the rich pay to help the poor, which is more than fair imo.

 

Kasz and I are very much on the same page politicly. I agree with him 100%.

As for the part I bolded, while that sounds sad, it's not protected by there rights. If a poor person without health insurance went to the hospital and needed heart surgery, he would get it. That's a right.

He would then be required to pay for it, and if he couldn't, he would go into financial ruin. He would have to file bankruptcy or if he has filed already, find another way to deal with his financial problems.

Now, you don't think it's fair that he has to struggle financially. I say he didn't have to. He could have worked towards a quality of life that would have put him in position not to be financially ruined. It's not hard to find a job in the US where you can get health insurance. Hell, work at McDonnell's and buy there corporate plan.

His financial status being in good standing is not a right. Healthcare to save his life is all he gets. And regardless of his financial standing, he will always get it.

Some things need to be the responsibility of the individual.