Kasz216 said:
fmc83 said:
Kasz216 said:
fmc83 said:
Kasz216 said:
Actuall yes.
I have... and i've learned a lot from them.
For example I have a very good understanding of Quantum Physics that i picked up soley through reading books, papers and articles.
For finding the meanings of specific words we have dictionaries.
Most of the more complicated information I know actually comes from self learning as my degree is in psychology.
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I feel like we get to the point^^ It always takes so long in forums
So you learned how to learn for yourself by studying not on your own, but in an academic area (or sorrounding - not too sure if that's a good translation), where you were questioned, and learned how to reason. Is that correct?
Let's assume this "area" (may it be parents or university) wouldn't have been there, would you be able to learn for yourself the same way or would you have problems about that? Who taught you how to use dictionaries?
Remember psychology is one of the sciences where you probably learn the most to question things and go to the real core of a problem. So I reckon this really is a great base to learn more things.
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No I learned by reading.
Even before I went to college I learned more from self learning then i ever did school.
Partially because I was already ahead of the curve.
I knew how to read before Kintergarden. Thanks to my Parent.
I also knew how to Add Subtract and Multiply before Kintergarden.
Etc.
Also.... parents? Since when are parents.... teachers? You keep trying to exapnd your arguement to include things that are not teachers.
Parents aren't paid to teach their children.
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I put the parents in just to know more about your situation, to be able to discuss with you better.
Just in short for today: No educational enviroment - no basics
So many would be cut of be able to learn how to learn just because there parents don't care. That's what teachers are for then. They shouldn't, but we are not living in a perfect world. Still your parents might not know about all topics, and still some can't teach you how to learn. You probably heard about physics first in school, so that gave you the chance of learning more on that later
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Once someone is taught to read and taught basic mathmatics they are equipped with all they need to learn unless they are special needs students. A vast majority of parents care enough about that to do so.
Plenty to ensure society wouldn't collapse unlike your claim.
A vast majority I would argue care enough to teach their children stuff as well... and a vast majority more would be even more inclinded to do so if they knew they were the forefront of child education. Rather then teachers.
A parent may not know a lot about physics but they know what it is.
We have libraries where people can learn about tons of stuff they've never known about before. It's just a matter of picking up a book on something you've never heard before and giving it a shot.
I'm not saying teachers are useless or anything... but society would last without them if they had too....
Just how society could last without just about every profession.
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Agree with everything, especially the bolded. Unfortuantely though, although I would agree that the vast majority would be inclinded to do as you say, there are still so many who believe that teachers are solely responsible for their childrens' education. Certainly, it's not so prevavlent that society would collapse if teachers were to disappear, but a sad reality still.
I know none of this is really pertinent to the discussion and I know you're not saying otherwise, but I thought I'd throw it in there. A lot can be said about the 'hidden' curriculum as well. Many things are learned at school that could never be derived from a book... some good, some bad, some invaluable.
