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Kasz216 on 11 April 2009
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pearljammer said:
TheRealMafoo said:
pearljammer said:

Just one last post...

I would agree with your second suggestion. I'm not overly familiar with the US education system, but here in Canada it is at a provincial level. It'd probably be even more effective at a regional level.

 

In 1953 the US started running education at the federal level. Before that it was run either at the state level, or more localized. It was considered a state issue, so each state did it a little differently.

Education was a lot better back then. Today, in the sate I live in, we collect about 20k per student enrolled. I am not against that huge sum of money, but think of the education that could buy if you had a more efficient system to spend it in. The top private schools don't cost that much.

The problem with that comparison is that the top private schools still don't have the high needs that public schools have, especially in inner-city schools.

@donathos: I wouldn't bother. Anyone claiming to know that "Most of the jobs that require the same amount of education are really a lot harder" without teaching before simply has no idea what they're talking about in this regard.

Most classrooms that are innercity share the issues that you have said, but usually to a much lesser extreme. Even taking away from all of that, just dealing with the academics alone is a difficult task. Teaching to 35 fourteen year olds (in one class, about 150 in total), each having completely different learning abilities, attitudes, priorities, and support at home as well as at school is an incredibly difficult thing to do. I'll admit, I'm not the greatest at it yet, it takes times, there are several changes the teacher needs to make about themselves as well. A jobs' difficultly cannot purely be measured upon the 'meatiness' of the material you are dealing with.

So, Kasz, I ask you again. What, exactly, makes microbiologists' job 'harder' or more 'tough' than a teachers? What qualifies you to make such a judgment?

My response to both questions is:

  1. I have no idea which is harder; and
  2. I'm not, as I haven't been a microbiologist at any point in my life

 

The college work alone is much harder... most people... even with college degrees could not get through the bachelors program for microbiology... let alone harder the latter programs.

Less people are qualified to be them.

To be a teacher... it's not as hard to get the degree.  To be a GOOD Teacher you need good person skills... but you don't need that to be a teacher, and with the US teacher union you don't need to be a good teacher to keep your job.