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Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:
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vlad321 said:
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vlad321 said:

Then again my public school was in the top 100 of Newsweek every year, so guess that's just anecdotal evidence. I just know I loved scoring higher on every single competition (math/scince/coding mostly) than the people from the local private schools. As did just about everyone who went to those from our school.

Anecdotal evidence ftl.

Although if you look at Georgia Institue of Technology, it's in the top 10 schools in the US for several categories.

 

Well the problem is you've got a bunch of "poor" schools pulling you down.  Which is the main problem of public schools.  Not that the good schools aren't good.

It's that the bad schools are bad... and there is little incentive to really fix them.  Since nobody really loses their jobs over it... and they have a monopoly.

That's true. That's why I beilve that a merit pay system is REALLY needed. Also the upper tiers of pay should definitely be competative with other careers.

 

I'm not sure i agree there.  I mean getting a teaching degree takes a lot of time... but it's just not as much effort as comparative degrees.  Neither is the workload.

Teachers just don't work as hard as microbiologists and the like.

Interestingly private school teachers get paid less then public school teachers.

The fact that they have to fight for their career i think helps that.

 

Yes and without teachers there wouldnt be microbiologists now woudl there? Ultimately teachers are some of the most important people in ANY society.

Well that's just not true.

I mean teachers haven't always existed yet people still learned how to do stuff without them.

Besides.  That's just more reason to make all the schools private.

 

Wait wait, what? Are you saying that we need to relearn everything that we learn every generation? That sounds retarded in itself.

Why?  People do need to relearn everything every generation.  It's not like we have gentic memory that passes down from one person to another.

Before teaching was a profession the younger generations still learned how to do shit through apprenticeship and passing knowledge down in their families, and books.

Regardless, just like every other profession... teachers are worth whatever they're paid.

 

You are saying that everyone needs to re invint everything? Because without teachers that's what will happen. Teachers ae by far one of the most impotant professions in ANY society. Without them knowledge is not passed down, it's lost.

Are you serious?

When someone wanted to become a blacksmith in the middle ages did they have to reinvent blacksmithing?

If teaching wasn't a profession then people would go back to the apprentice system.  It would be annoying and it would be less efficent but society would survive and entire disciplines wouldn't just up and disapear.

That's just stupid.

Also... you know.  Books exist and such.  I mean people are homeschooled you know.  They turn out just fine when it comes to learning.

 

There is nothing more obnoxious then quoting huge messes of text without cleaning it up. Start using the "delete row" button to clean it up.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire