SciFiBoy said:
Kasz216 said:
To make it more clear. Picture a situation like this.
You and I go out to dinner.
You make more money then I do... So we decide to split the bill 70-30%.
Now we go out to dinner again... but this time we get desert. So I think we should split the bill 75-25%
Now we go out to dinner again. In addition to the main course and desert... we decide to get apetizers. So I think we should split the bill 80-20%.
Our incomes stay the same... yet our burdens on the meal change based on how much we spend.
Why?
This is how progressive taxation ALWAYS goes. If someone were to say... "Ok I think the rich get an inhernt advantage from being rich. Therefore we should have a set in stone never changing policy that the rich pay 2X the amount the poor do." or something like that. I'd be willing to listen to that argument based on various facts and factors. you mean fixed tax rates?
However someone who simply says the rich should pay more and more no matter how much the government spends (which is how all governments work now...) that's just discrimination. i think i understand, i wouldnt ask them to pay more if government spending was the same amount or less than when the rate was introduced (infact, if spending goes down, they can have a cut if its feasable) but if the government spends more, then yes i might consider rasing the rate, but im against any tax rate above %50
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Yes.
I believe if people want to keep a progressive tax it would have to be after multiple large scale studies on how having more money effects your ability to make money and quality of life. Of which we need much better measures as it stands.
Once the rates are set they should be untouchable for 2-3 election terms. With any tax raises or cuts having to be proportional. Aka. If the "Rich" are paying 20% and the Poor are paying 10%... and they want to raise the rich rate to 22% they would have to raise the poor tax rate to 11%.
After 2-3 elections it woulf be followed by the same studies to see if the results have changed, and the rates being set to be changed either up or down based on the same studies after another 5 years or so.
Why 5 years or so? So polticians will not be able to set that money to special projects since in 5 years as the political landscape will be different.
Until such a system is in place. Progresssive taxation will be nothing but a tool for politicians to raise moneys for their pet projects while keeping their power.
