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Kasz216 said:
pearljammer said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:

Then again my public school was in the top 100 of Newsweek every year, so guess that's just anecdotal evidence. I just know I loved scoring higher on every single competition (math/scince/coding mostly) than the people from the local private schools. As did just about everyone who went to those from our school.

Anecdotal evidence ftl.

Although if you look at Georgia Institue of Technology, it's in the top 10 schools in the US for several categories.

 

Well the problem is you've got a bunch of "poor" schools pulling you down.  Which is the main problem of public schools.  Not that the good schools aren't good.

It's that the bad schools are bad... and there is little incentive to really fix them.  Since nobody really loses their jobs over it... and they have a monopoly.

That's true. That's why I beilve that a merit pay system is REALLY needed. Also the upper tiers of pay should definitely be competative with other careers.

 

I'm not sure i agree there.  I mean getting a teaching degree takes a lot of time... but it's just not as much effort as comparative degrees.  Neither is the workload.

Teachers just don't work as hard as microbiologists and the like.

Interestingly private school teachers get paid less then public school teachers.

The fact that they have to fight for their career i think helps that.

 

Yes and without teachers there wouldnt be microbiologists now woudl there? Ultimately teachers are some of the most important people in ANY society.

Well that's just not true.

I mean teachers haven't always existed yet people still learned how to do stuff without them.

Besides.  That's just more reason to make all the schools private.

 

And what you say isn't necessarily true either.

Teachers have always existed, just not in the same formal, structured sense as we have today. Also, I think that would be an unfair comparison, regardless. In a modern world, where knowledge is expanding at a rate unlike any time you may be referring to, I think it's imperative that we have institutes in place where we teach children to remain so progressive.

At your final remark: I'm not following, could you explain?

In captialism people are paid what they are viewed to be worth.  If people view that htose jobs are worth more... people won't choose those jobs.

Ah, admittedly, I hadn't payed much attention to what the topic had originally been about. I was lured in out of interest of talks of education.

I would agree with you for the most part, but I think you may be slightly oversimplifying. Many choose career paths that pay less than what they could have gotten elsewhere simply out of preference or other personal reasons.