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Lolcislaw on 10 April 2009
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Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:


Our poorest civilians do get healthcare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid

 

 

*Googles medicaid*

Sounds like a lovely socialist program that benefits many Americans

Note: I am not a socialist, I just like teasing lol

I agree. I think we should increase it. (People forget that i'm pro-universal healthcare.)

The problem is when you decide to pay for it by being predjudiced against one group that makes an easy target rather then having the country as a whole roll up their sleeves and say "Lets get this done for our country and our poor."

The first kind of thinking really promotes forming different castes and having them beat each other over the head, rather then a society that works together to get through it's troubles.

 

But you do not like the NHS right?

You could make it work well though... Medicaid sounds like a good program, how come you guys don't pull it out in debates more often?

Yeah, for really only three reasons.

1) How it's paid for.

2) There is no mechanism(to my knowledge) that rewards/penalizes those who take care of themselves... giving no incentives to live a healthy life outside of wanted to feel good, which honestly isn't enough for a lot of people.  

If there was some sort of penalty that made people pay extra for healthcare problems they caused, or a tax rebate given to people who say go to 2 checkups a year and get credit for so many heatlhy activites....  I think it would make a lot of sense.  Private company insurance companys have been doing this and getting great results.

3) I think it covers some elective stuff it shouldn't.  For example things like Plastic Surgery based soley on psychological reasons are abused quite readily.

 

Really in the US though I think something like Healthcare would have to be managed on a state to state basis based on how freaking huge the country is.  Otherwise the orginzational costs would be far too big.

 

I agree with you about the NHS, people do like to talk about how great it is. but that thing needs a radical reform; especially in current times. Too much money is lost in it (and that could be avoided), and some hospitals for example still remain in bad condition (well the one near me is one of the worst in the country). They could try too privatise stuff like plastic surgery or even catering or cleaning services for startes.