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rocketpig said:
SciFiBoy said:

 

the people you mention wouldnt have been liberals then would they

i dont think im naive at all, i think youre niave to think humanity cant co-exist and that bill gates can be better trusted to educate me for free than the government who i can vote for

At the time those people were considered liberals. That's the trick when it comes to politicking. You can be one thing on a certain day, something entirely different the next. You vote on who you think best serves the needs you feel important but inevitably, they don't entirely serve what you want.

You think I'm naive for believing in something humanity has never even come close to accomplishing? This isn't a space walk. There is no technological advancement that can achieve this masterpiece. I'm talking about thousands of years of recorded history where nothing has changed. The times, the social situations, the circumstances may be different but at the core, it's the same.

Call that naive if you want but I have the feeling those who are impartial can see which one of us is the naive one here.

 

there are not liberals if they are pro segregation, look up Liberalism

co-existing? we do, have you not been to the UK or US, many people co-exist peacefully in both nations

niavity is subjective, which is why i said i dont think i am, what i think is niave may be different to what you think is niave, so the impartial people you refer to dont exist as they have to have an opinion one way or the other on our niavity to comment on it