SciFiBoy said:
rocketpig said:
Utopia is impossible. Humanity continually finds ways to separate itself into groups and judge others based on the perceptions of its peers. It's the very nature of our tribal heritage and will continue until the end of time. As one group of bad guys are considered acceptable (minorities, for example), another fills the gap to take its place (homosexuals). It's merely a continuation of when we roamed the earth in packs of 30 and hated everyone around us. You like what you know, you dislike what you don't because you don't fully understand it.
Today, janitors have shit jobs and Wall Street brokers treat them as a member of the sub-class every day. 100 years from now, a highly skilled machine technician will probably be viewed the same way by the guy who programs said machine. The job may have changed but the attitude (and roughly hewn class system) remains the same. Mix in culture, ethnicity, and background and you have a formula that will perpetuate until man inevitably destroys itself.
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well, i disagree, i think humanity can co-exist with each other, i dont hate any section of society or look down on people based upon there job, im sorry if you do.
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Show me one example of humanity ever doing this or even showing the willingness to try it. It's a sliding scale but overall, nothing changes. Do we take better care of our weak, poor, and elderly? Of course. That's really your one defense of socialism. An equity of health and prosperity.
But to use it for defense of an utopian society is ridiculous. We're the same as our spear-bearing ancestors, though society has grown in compassion as time progressed. But, in our hearts, we're still the same self-serving, scared, weak individuals when it comes to safety and survival, which is the true core of any animal.
