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windbane on 10 April 2007
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johnsobas said:
windbane said:
HappySqurriel said:
Kwaad said:

I just wanna say seriously guys. If you think sony is the only corporation out there that makes mistakes think agian.

Nintendo sued the same company sony did, lik-sang. Sony is hated. Nintendo is loved.

Microsoft makes a console that at least, 1/15 die. That's ok. Since sony pays someone to make batterys for them, it's sony gets hated. It's ok to make 1/15 400$ consoles die tho.

It's ok to make a game for less than 1million, spend 10 million advertising it, and sell it to the masses. And sell it for as much as a AAA title. It's a GREAT AMAZING GAME! Go Nintendo!

Ok. I just dont understand the sony hate. Sony makes the best TVs. Hands down.

I say EA. I hate EA.

 

Back in the day Nintendo sued Lik-Sang because they were selling products to copy/pirate GBA games.

Anyways, the Sony hatred can be explained in one sentence "They charged $600 for a gaming system" which most people think is an insane price.


Ok, why are you ignoring the $500 PS3 that has better specs than the $400 360. M$ charges for online. Most people don't do math. And if you ignore the cheaper PS3 because the $600 is the better package, you can argue the PS3 is the better package than the 360 in many ways. Sony is losing money on each console, much more than has been lost before. When the PS3 launched it was the cheapest blu-ray player. With $600 you get a console that is known not to fail (unlike 360s). But whatever, I suppose "most" people agree with you.


Oh please, the 500$ version is virtually unavailable and has been since after launch. You can argue that PS3 is a better value than 360, but that's only if you want all the extra gadgets. Microsoft gives you the option to choose. You can play a 360 game for 300$ + 60$ for game. The PS3 you can not play for less than 600+60$. The main problem with the ps3 is people don't like having things forced on them that make the price dramatically higher.


M$ does not give you the choice to play online games for free like every non-MMO PC and console game. M$ does not give you a hard drive as a standard for their console enabling developers to take advantage and lower load times and make extra content available. They also do not give you the choice to install a hard drive other than the way overpriced ones such as the $180 120GB hard drive (worth $50 retail). Also, apparently it was the consumer choosing against the 20GB PS3 that caused Sony to phase them out. I think it's a bad move on their part because the packages were more comparable.

People keep saying, mainly M$, that they give their customers choices, but they don't yet have a blu-ray add-on drive, do they? Wouldn't a consumer want the choice to have the leading HD drive? Both have choices but that doesn't mean the choices are good.

Also, I believe you'd have to buy a memory card to save games for the Core version, so add some more money on for that. I think M$ has a very clever strategy because they can offer inferior packages and then pack on add-ons that people will most likely choose later. The best thing on the 360 is Live I keep hearing. Well, to take advantage of online games you have to pay. Buyers are short-sighted, I just wish people on this site weren't.

Also, the 20GB PS3 might still be more available than the Wii, and the 20GB version was readily available for months.