FKNetwork said:
Sardauk said:
Rpruett said:
Sardauk said:
Rpruett said:
Sardauk said:
That is so PS3 biased... lol
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Not really. I prefer the PS3 to the 360. But game enjoyment is purely a matter of personal opinion. Price clearly favors the 360 in terms of entry point. Reliability clearly favors the PS3 and Value I guess 'could maybe be' a tad biased. But the PS3 does give you a Blu-Ray player, WiFi, Free Online for $400. Add those costs onto the cheapest 360 model and include XBL fees.
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Ok but, if we are talking about a gaming machine, I don't care about blu-ray, wifi (useless for gaming) etc...
A pure gamer would rather spend money into gaming rather than electronics... 
Neither console is marketed as purely gaming machine though now is it? Both are categorized as multi-media machines.
IMO, this "value argument" is a Sony marketing spin : Real value is about getting more for less money, not getting more for more because... you just paid for it, that is no added-value... people on this forum don't understand that apparently...
No the the 'value argument' is not Sony marketing spin. Value is getting something for less than it's worth. Getting a bargain. There is a reason people by the PS3 and make clusters with them. The hardware in them is a total value. Add up what the features would cost to put onto your 360. ($100 for Wifi, $150 or more for Blu-Ray attachment, $50 a year for Live).
360 has more value : It is the most succesful HD console on the market and it is available with crazy bundles..that is value to me: You wanna play ? You get the console and 2 AAA titles for 290 € or a HALO Pack for 260 €.
I have no problem with people willing to pay more for blu-ray... but this is not gaming related..(and don't come on me with the advantage of BR on gaming...this is just storage..).
You actually get gaming advantages with more storage. Less compression is always a good thing for a gamer. The 360 wins on price, but not value IMO.
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No the the 'value argument' is not Sony marketing spin. Value is getting something for less than it's worth. Getting a bargain. There is a reason people by the PS3 and make clusters with them. The hardware in them is a total value. Add up what the features would cost to put onto your 360. ($100 for Wifi, $150 or more for Blu-Ray attachment, $50 a year for Live).
Why the f*ck would we (360 users) want to do that ???!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't get the 360 to add some features on it, like BR, sport spoilers, rocket turbine and heated cup-holder..damn...
That is why I'm saying it is a PS3-biased comparaison.
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Same here!
Why yap on about adding all that crap onto the 360's price (blu ray, wi-fi etc) when we didn't buy a 360 for ANY of that! if I wanted a decent blu ray player I certainly wouldn't have got a PS3, I don't use blu ray at all anymore and yes, I do have a 52" HD 1080P TV but I prefer using Sky HD and my 360 for all my HD needs,
And WHY O WHY would I want to use Wi-Fi on my gaming systems lmao, I use ethernet on my 360/PS3 and PC as WI-FI is a complete joke for online gaming, intermittent connection problems, more lag, slower packet management and too much interference from everyday items make it too unreliable for serious gaming (many gaming sites did features on this ages ago and said ethernet is still the best way to get the best and most reliable speed for gaming), we only use Wi-Fi for the Laptop, Wii and Nokia N96 in our house and that's only because we have too lol,
Sony fanboys just don't get it, the PS3 is not value for money at all, paying a fortune for something which offers hardly anything more than a product which is much cheaper which does some things a lot better is NOT value for money no matter how you try and spin it,
I got my PS3 as a free gift and i'm still not happy with it so feel very sorry for people that actually paid real cash for one, the 360 is what gaming this generation is all about, top games, top multiplayer, superb controls, fantastic social features, the list goes on and console sale figures show this, 360 has been outselling the PS3 every week (bar one week just before KZ2 went on sale) for almost 7 months solid and is showing no signs of slowing down, software sells massively on 360 compared to PS3, there are many reasons for gamers and developers/publishers to stick with the 360 this generation which is now becoming very clear is indeed the case.
I have 99 people on my xbox live friends list (yup, it's full) so always have people to play and chat to, my PS3 I have 3 people on it as no-one I know likes/owns them, it's either 360 or Wii where I live,
Ok people, Flame away lol.....
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