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TheRealMafoo on 08 April 2009
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SciFiBoy said:
Broncos724 said:
SciFiBoy said:
by your logic we have no rights as everything can be taken away, by death

so you have NO right to earn any money, you have NO right to live, you have NO right to speak to anyone else, you have NO rights

you really want to say that Rights must be inalienable?



now, in my opinion, Rights are the basic things all humans need to enjoy a good standard of life, to get a the job they want and to live in good health, imo we should strive towards making sure everyone has these rights, no matter what there race, nationality or gender.

 

I agree with your aspirations in the last paragraph. Unfortunately the utopia that you (and everyone) wants to live in is fantasy and simply cannot happen. So however a society is set up there will be a lower, middle, and upper class. It's just how it is. With that being said, I think small government, free market countries have shown that their lower classes live a lot, LOT better than the lower classes of a socialistic society.

 

well done for ignoring what ive been saying all through the thread, im a Liberal Socialist, not an Authoritarian Socialist, there is a very big difference

 

No, you want to base a life on Star Trek.

In Star Trek, everyone works. There is no such thing as welfare. Good luck making a country where everyone will contribute in some fashion.

In the Next Generation, Picard became captain, because someone at the academy and star fleet determined he was better then everyone else. Due to that choice, he lives with a much higher standard of living then the rest of the crew. He gets the best quarters, and gets to dictate how his life will go, what locations they get to visit, who can take leave, and so on.

he lives like a king, when the rest live like the servants that they are, and no one gets a choice in the matter. There is no money. You do your part, and you get what the government thinks you deserve. Some get to travel the galaxy, and some clean shit off of toilet seats. The choice is not yours, you can "try out" for jobs, but in the end, your told what job you will get.

Thats no world I want to live in.