I am a liberal and I'm proud

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The_vagabond7 said:

SciFiBoy said:

so, poor people should be denied basic rights because rich people are greedy and wont give them any help?

you give up some of your income (a more than fair amount if you live in the UK or US, id argue that the rich in both nations are awfully undertaxed) in order to give thoose less fortunate than you the same rights you enjoy, like education or healthcare.

 

That's not really a response to his question. You may think he should be more charitable, but that wasn't what he asked. How is the government taking something from him, and giving it to some one else not an infringement of his rights? Not "Should ethically he be more willing to help more people get an education" or "Does taking it from him and giving it to some one else for an education better for the country as a whole", those aren't topics he was discussing.

I would say that it is an infringment of his financial rights, however its one thats needed in order for others to not have their rights infringed.

I consider that in the modern world everybody has a right to education, healthcare and the necessities of life. In order for that to happen taxes are necessary.

Its impossible to live in a Utopian world where no rights of anybody are infringed, its the governments job to get as close as possible.