EaglesEye379 said:
Rpruett said:
EaglesEye379 said:
Rpruett said:
EaglesEye379 said:
Microsoft has allowed 'tons' of new successful IP to be created this gen as well - Gears, Mass Effect, Viva Pinata, Crackdown, and Alan Wake (since you want to mention MAG - an unknown quantity just the same). |
How many of those can be bought on PC versus Console? I certainly have enjoyed many of those games since my 360 broke.
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Is this just an excuse to flame MS / 360?
Your earlier argument was that Sony has put their name/money to some IP. Furthermore, you said this is why you prefer the PS3 over the 360. Well, Im just pointing out certain IP that MS has put their name/money on which is just as successful and also you cant get on the PS3. And whether you can get it on the PC, I dont see how this is relevant when MS still gave birth to those IP (although duh they are Games for Windows so MS still gets publishing fees).
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Not at all. The reason I really do at the core like Sony as a video game maker has never been sales or anything else. Just the fact that they always have had wonderful franchises that would just get created out of thin air. Nintendo not so much. (Beyond their originals) and Microsoft not so much either.
And no 360 didn't give birth to these games if I can play them elsewhere. That's the point. Multi-platform games I wouldn't count. I can play Mass Effect, Gears and Alan Wake on PC. If Xbox 360 didn't exist, I could still play those games on PC for certain. You can't say the same about most of the PS3 exclusives.
That's the whole point. What IPs has Microsoft come up with for their original Xbox / 360 that actually have been 'new' and not just taken another companies exclusivity from a game? Halo and ... ? I mean hell even Halo I could play on PC.
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I disagree. The IPs/games I stated were created with the 360 in mind with a decision to port it to the PC at a later stage. Heck you cant (and wont ever) play Gears 2 on PC. And these IPs are massively more succesful on the 360 than their PC counterpart. I firmly believe that if the 360 didnt exist, none of those games would have - because MS' investment in Rare/Epic/Bungie/BioWare were definitely part of their 360 strategy.
Are you sure about that? Games like Mass Effect/ Alan Wake totally appear like 'PC' born games. What good IPs has Rare given Microsoft? Bungie / Epic (Halo and Gears) and.... Bioware makes PC games and always has.
what does it change if it's on PC it's still MSFT we are talking about
And secondly, I dont really have to argue on the above because consoles dont give birth to IPs, the publishing companies and developers with the ideas do. These 2 elements dictate the hardware/console. And thats why I am talking about MS and Sony rather than the 360 and PS3. So to answer your question on what IPs MS came up with, I would give you the same list as before. What is the difference of Sony paying the wages/bills for Insomniac/Naughty Dog so they have to make it on the PS3?
The point is, if I want to get truly original, unique, IPs that differentiate themselves from the rest of the pack. Sony has always provided that better than Microsoft has. That continues onward today. Which is precisely the point. I have played numerous 360 games on my PC.
and then again what is the difference between your XB and your PC ???? same architecture or close and same brand of OS ???? now about MS I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure they did IPs that are more world famous than Sony.... Age of Empire, Close combat, motocross madness, flight simulator, midtown madness, monsterturck madness, mechwarrior, for the old one on top of my mind.... but when it comes to current licences they own right now it's not bad either....
Dont get me wrong though, Im not trying to flame you or say you cant prefer Sony/PS3. The bottom line of what Im trying to say is - you said you prefer the PS3 because Sony created IP, Im saying MS created IP as well. You made it sound like only Sony did.
Sony has created so many IPs with more consistency and this has happened since the Playstation brand formed. Microsoft to date has stamped their name on Ex-PS2 exclusives. (Which is great for 360 gamers) but the fact remains that there isn't any creativity in that. So what? What 'new' games are you going to offer me? I don't think the 360 delivers as well in that regard.
what PS2 exclusive ??? the one they stole from nintendo themself to put their stamp on it.....
stop making a difference between 360 and your PC it's exactly the same andthe fact something is on both but not on the other other platform doesn't make it multi plat as it is still MSFT exclusive.... it'd be stupid from MSFT to alienate their PC user and cut potential profit... so no microsoft to push those IP either on PC or 360 and you wouldn't be able to play them on PC or 360.... because it's not nintendo or sony that will be pushing stuff for PC either...
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