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Darc Requiem said:
786_ali said:
BTFeather55 said:

A lot of posts saying illogical this and that, yet they don't change the fact that main series FF games have averaged over 2.54 million copies sold on Playstation consoles in Japan including FFX and FFVII with both selling over 3 million copies (VII rounded up at 4 million copies) in the past and there are two coming exclusively to the PS3 over there which should be good enough to generate the sale of at the very least 1 million new PS3's in the region.

Also all of the Gran Turismo games have also sold well over a million copies in Japan which should generate at the very least 500,000 new sales for the PS3 in Japan. And while Forza Motorsport may be able to cut down on GT5's appeal in the West, Japanese consumers will pick the Japanese game.

Even if no other game causes any PS3 consoles to sell in Japan this year, these two (three games) will still sell result in the PS3 having sold 4 million consoles in Japan between its launch in 2006 and the end of 2009 (5 to 7 million high end), while the most the 360 can hope to sell in Japan by the end of this year is 250,000 more units while 150,000 seems a much more realistic number for what 360 will sell there between now and 1-1-2010.

Even a difference of 3.5 million would be enough to guarantee far fewer Japanese exclusives coming to the 360 in the future than in its peak year in Japan of 2008 when even a difference of 2 million units between the two consoles has that it can shift games that were originally the 360's big exclusives like Ninja Gaiden II and Tales of Vesperia into being released on PS3 (in more complete forms) thus further mitigating the appeal of the 360 to Japanese consumers.

exactly. the PS3's improving situation and the 360's deteriorating siuation will mean the 36o's situation will get worse and worse, leaving it stuck in a viscious circle

 

Sales numbers don't back up that statement. 360 sales are up year over and year and PS3 sales are down. Their has been no question that the PS3 has will will continue to have an advantage over the 360 in Japan. However, it's advantage is Japan is nothing compared to the 360's marketshare advantage in the West. In the past that would not matter, but the Japanese market is the smallest market now. Not only that the Wii's lead in Japan is near insurmountable. Between Japanese devs increasing focusing on titles that sell in the West and putting Japanese centric main titles( Monster Hunter 3, Dragon Quest 10, Tales of Graces) on the Wii. The Japanese market isn't going to be that big of an aid the PS3.

As for the Japanese sales comparison between the PS1, PS2, and PS3. The PS3 has been on the market in Japan for 125 weeks. It's sold less than a third of what the PS2 has old during that time, and less than half of what the PS1 sold. Here is the link below.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS®1=Japan&cons2=PS2®2=Japan&cons3=PS3®3=Japan&weeks=125

 

        Yeah, and the PSP wasn't doing so hot there in Japan for its first two to three years either but now it is very definitely the second most popular console in Japan and many weeks it finishes in first place and had the best selling game released in Japan in 2008.  I don't see why the PS3 can't follow a similar path which is what it in fact seems to be doing having beaten the Wii for the past five weeks.

      As for more Japanese companies wanting to put their games on the 360 in order for them to sell well in the West.  If the PS3 sales enough consoles in Japan (and I would say that 5 million would be getting closer to that figure, then Japanese companies might not care to bring their games out in the West.  They wouldn't have to worry about paying voice actors and actresses or translators for Western localizations of the games for one thing if they could sell enough copies in Japan), and for a second point after God of War III, Uncharted 2, and GT5 comes out in Europe, the PS3's total numbers worldwide will be close to 25 to 30 million consoles sold meaning that they would be large enough that Japanese companies wouldn't need to put them on 360 in order for them to sell well.  Also, if the games are niche jrpgs or based off of popular anime properties, then there would be more incentive to put them on the PS3 in the West as the PS3 audience for these types of games is much bigger than the 360's audience for these types of games.  Compare Star Ocean's sales on PS2 to its sales on the 360.



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