SciFiBoy said:
mesoteto said:
im trying to understand how good things can be called gods will, but not bad things, surely if one is true, then so is the other?
No it is not true and does not have to be, god no longer smites us when we get bad, Gods will is for his Children to be happy but since we have will of our own we can choose not to follow his lead and that is when horrible things can happen to very good people and very bad people. Since you seem to want to keep Hitler going in this discussion I really wish you had read my previous posts
Gods will was for Hitler to have a good life and live happily, however Hitler mad choices that lead him down the path he went, not gods choices but Hitler’s, that is why he did what he did
God gave him options that would have been so much better for the world and for him, but he chose to go his own way and we saw how that turned out
"miracles" don’t happen, its called luck and/or coincidence.
Spoken like a true non believer, they do happen you just have to be willing to except that they can, I have heard stories of medical healing, I have heard stories of people being right where they needed to be at eth right moment, I have heard stories of freak accidents happening and nothing more then a bump on the head
You choice for it to not be , I chose for it to
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1. if we have Free Will it means that nothing happens for a divine reason.
2. all of thoose can or will be explained through science. one of the great things about science, is that we look for the answers as to why unexplained things happen, we dont live in ignorance of the world.
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Responding to your Point 1.
Thats an absolute claim that cannot be made. Like I said before we all have free will and good and bad things happen due to free will. (ex. when my wife and I have a child, that would be a wonderful thing stemming directly from our free will). Your claim holds up for the vast majority of events, however, this doesnt mean there could not be divine intervention at all. It's perfectly possible for God to intervene, albiet a rarity.
