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Louie said:
mesoteto said:
Louie said:
This shouldn't be about "atheist or not", though. I was just trying to say those two men lead a state without relying on god.

What I'm trying to say: An atheist can also have high moral standards and act with respect to other people, etc.

how do they learn them?

 

is is based on society that has norms in place b/c of religion?

 

or is there something i am missing?

 

 

 

 

It's called "using your brain"

Honestly: basically you just have to follow the "golden rule"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity

What do you think religious values come from? From god?

yes in fact all of my morals and beliefes come from my faith...

and using your brain does not work b/c it humane mnature to look out for ones self first and foremost, look at children they are perfect examples of how humans would be if we just “used our brains”  they have the me mentality that we are born with and only thru educating our children do they come to understand that way of thought will not work

 

only in animals in nature and only certain ones (apes, elephants, dolphins) can you see any type of selfless behavior but not humans

 

and was always under the impression that the golden rule came from religion and its teachings