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donathos on 31 March 2009
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mesoteto said:

And until you reach you “ohh there you are” you will not understand, you will disbelieve, and you will be intolerant in some form or another 

I don't see the point to your parting insult, or agree that it's true.

Not agreeing with you =/= "intolerant."

And, with that, I think I'll bow out of our discussion (feel free to have the last word); once we reach the point of "well, it's a matter of faith" then there's nothing more to argue, because faith by its nature cannot be communicated from one person to another.  It's a completely personal phenomenon and, “in my opinion, a bad basis for belief and action.”

Like I said you are intolerant of my beliefs b/c they are based on faith, when you read that did you not think in your head, oh he is using that well that holds not water with me, there are levels of intolerance and I am sorry b/c I assumed you would understand that and did not mean it  as any type of parting jab. I did not want to imply that you will come after us with pitchforks and torches

Usually when I get into this type of debate I have noticed the majority of people tend to take a “ohh one of those” when the matter of faith comes up, and I wasn’t mistaken from all appearances you took that very action and instantly distanced yourself from this discussion?  Did you not?

 

Again I really want to stress it wasn’t meant as “parting insult”

 

 

Okay.  I'll take you at your word that no insult was intended--thank you for clarifying.

But I continue to insist that what I am is not "intolerant" of your beliefs.  Instead, I disagree with them.

My reason for "distancing myself" from the discussion is because I believe that "faith" is a personal matter--you cannot give me faith in something, can you?  So if you're saying that your entire argument comes down to a matter of faith... then... I just don't know how the discussion can benefit me, or anyone else who doesn't already have faith in what you're saying.

However, if you think that you can somehow show that "having faith" is good, or necessary, or something like that, I'm certainly willing to hear you out.  Though I suspect that the reason, ultimately, that you believe that faith is a good thing is because... you have faith in it. :)