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mesoteto said:
Louie said:
@ Mesoteto: If I gave you 13 random playing cards out of a Poker deck of cards would you doubt that the cards in front of you were randomly chosen?

no they came for a reason, it was your hand touching a certain part, or the way the light bent off the face of x card

random is a myth for some reason or another every thing happens for a reason

we just might not be able to see it our understand why but there is a reason 

You're absolutely right that the order in a deck of cards has a "reason"--the way it was shuffled, etc.

However, unless the person shuffling the cards is a sleight-of-hand artist, there isn't a purpose to the order of the cards--no intelligence has guided the final order.  Just as, if I were to throw a bag of flour into the air, every little bit would land some specific place for a "reason"--according to the laws of physics--but not according to a purpose.

"Random," when we discuss the order of honestly shuffled cards, or the exact layout of the flour spill, refers to this lack of purpose; a lack of intelligent design.

Thus, random is not a myth... it just doesn't mean "without reason" in the way you're talking about.