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nightsurge on 31 March 2009
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StarrGazer said:
nightsurge said:
ssj12 said:
nightsurge said:
Jordahn said:
Microsoft can spend their funds anyway they want to advertise. But they'd be better off using those funds to fix their software problems so Apple ads will have nothing to point out. Those Apple ads wouldn't have a leg to stand on if it weren't true.

Most Apple ads aren't even true.  They talk about old issues or things that only occur in small numbers, and blow them up to be huge problems.  As far as actual security, Apple OS is far less secure.  I can take my OS X disc to almost any Apple machine I want and get access to it within a few minutes time with complete ownership rights.  It is laughable how little security these things have.

 

And I can do the same with the Ultimate Windows Boots Disc.... your point?

You can't do it with a standard Windows OS disc.  Thus it is much more secure than the Apple OS.  Also, it is very easy to change your settings in the Bios on a PC so that you cannot boot to DVD without a password.  Can't say the same for Apple machines.

And by a few minutes, I meant like litterally 5 minutes or less to have full control and lock out the original user.

 

You obviously aren't familiar with how this is done on a Mac.   The equivalent for a Mac is the Open Firmware Password......does the same thing as the BIOS lockout you are touting.

 

So the Open Firmware Password enables me to disable booting from DVD?  Thank you.  Now I can further protect my incredibly vulnerable Macs within the staff.  Also, I'm not sure about your previous argument as far as the costs of the lifecycle being higher on PC's.  In fact, over the last 2 IT jobs I've worked at, the PC's lasted 3-5 years before needing replacements, if not longer, and only a few would see simple RAM upgrades.  Sure some parts failed like hard drives and RAM and the occasional motherboard, but that is hardware, which fails at the same rate given pretty much any technological device regardless if it is used for Macs or PCs.

The fact remains that a PC with better hardware and a full service 3 year warranty with accidental damage coverage is still hundreds cheaper than a Mac, and on a school/university, security is most important, which is why we will always use PCs in much higher volume than Macs.  Simplicity is also a big factor, and as of the last month, I have had to work on 4 Macs and only 3 PCs as far as hardware (upgrades/replacements).  The Mac hardware (especially older eMacs and iMacs) is incredibly stupid, proprietary, and makes simple things like RAM upgrades a huge PITA.