Rise of atheism: 100,000 Brits seek 'de-baptism'

[mesoteto]

SciFiBoy said:

mesoteto said:
why do they have to happen for a reason?---

its just how it is, nothing is random in this world

why does that reason have to be a god(s)?

you can chose for it to not be but I chose for it to be b/c the bible of my faith says so, and while I don’t think all the facts are completely accurate i believe that those thing really did happen

if everything happens for a reason, why do we have free will?

This is a sticky point for many people you have the right to choose but have to take into account that every person on this planet from Jesus to Hitler had that same choice and while your choice might to be not to jump off a cliff the hundred people behind you might choice to push you off

if everything happens for a reason, why am i an atheist?

b/c you choice to be despite anything presented to you, god loved you enough to let you choice to love him back or hate him, he wont make your mind up for you just be there when you do

 

if everything happens for a reason, then youre saying what Hitler did was good for the world as god wanted him to kill all thoose jews.

 

There are so many opinions about that and each one gets a counter point

But your trying to twist my words, the reason the Jewish community took such a blow was b/c of the actions Hitler choice to take

Never once have I said there is a divine reason for such and such to happen

b/c god gave you free will and he loves us all the same he gave it to Hitler as well, some people just make better choices about that

my personal opinion is summed up in a cartoon I once saw, it was a little girl looking at an old man with a tattoo of a number on his arm, when asked why he had it and kept it the old man respond , “its not so I forget but to remind the word what happened”

yeah a tragic thing happened but it wasn’t b/c god willed it on the Jewish faith, it wasn’t b/c the Nazis knew how to pray better or harder then the Jewish faith, it was simply b/c good people made the wrong choice or no choice or let bad people make it for them, and if you absolutely need to turn it into a good or bad thing you will never win, the harsh reality of the situation is horrible, but the amount of knowledge into how we should and shouldn’t treat humane beings, the ability of it to make you do a bit of soul searching, and the power it has to shape the world is a good thing

but then again my faith has me always picking my self back up and finding the silver lining in all things