WessleWoggle said:
mmnin said:
WessleWoggle said:
Louie said:
The great thing about god is no matter how illogical your explanations for him are you can always say "it's god, he doesn't follow our rules". You can pretty much explain everything (even why 1 + 1= 3) with that system of arguing.  |
I hate the 'god is outside of logic' bullshit.
People claiming god is outside of logic without any proof for the statement, is lame.
How do they know this? They don't, they just guess. They know nothing about god.
I believe logic is above god, logic is transcendent of all things. 1 + 1 will always equal 2 within the laws of standard mathematics, even god cannot change that. He may be able to destoy the universe and make math a different way, but the fact remains, 1 + 1 will always equal 2, even if our system of mathematics was gone, even if no one was here to think those thoughts.
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Well I believe that God IS true logic and that it may not be within our grasp. If it were, we would not still be discovering new things and gaining stronger understandings. I believe that they exist harmoneously. No Christian knows the true manifestation of God, so definitely there is room for conjecture. I am not blindly saying that "God is outside of logic." But I AM saying that as of this point there is still no way to prove or disprove the existence of God.
Regardless of if absolute TRUTH (true logic) is yet to be fully discovered, if you can believe so strongly in logic in general, then there is nothing wrong with believing in all true God. It is possible that are one in the same for each person respectively.
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IT might be in our grasp if we all form a circle and meditate. Woohoo! Spirituality much?
I believe that logic is the source of all things. I believe the source of all things is 'god'. For that reason philisophically I don't like the label god, only 'source'. God has too much baggage as a word.
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Well I'm comfortable with how I see God and would gladly share my views with anybody of any religion. (and yes I want to learn other views as well.) I developed it based on my findings in life and experiences I have had, as I'm sure many have with their views. I believe the more that we learn and see the closer we can come to that truth. I think that Spirituality is actually a very necessary part to fully understanding everything. Our subconscious, the beauty in art, the variations in humanity and lifeforms, the engrossing sounds of music, etc. I think it all has ties to math, phsyics, and the universe. There is definitely some sort of common life that is shared and I'd like to find the essence of it. I may never find it, but at least i'm trying.
