That Guy said:
Kasz216 said:
That Guy said:
This became an interesting topic on like page 20 of another thread, and I think it deserves its own thread.
Obviously the US Education system needs fixing. Kids keep falling through the cracks, Teachers are overworked and underpaid. Incompetant teachers with tenure are pretty much untouchable due to crazy union laws. How would YOU fix it?
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You'd be surprised.
The Department of Education in cleveland used to have a website where you could see what teachers made. They made so much that the site got taken down because people got pissed.
For example Cleveland City schools are facing a shortfall of 83 million dollars.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/01/budget_deficit_could_force_cle.html
This equals the average pay and benefits of 900 teachers.
So a quick review of the math.
83 million/900 teachers = $92,222.23
$90,000 a year isn't underpaid for 9 months work. That's 10K a month.
Cleveland City schools are some of the worst in the area.
It's not a matter of funds in Clevelands case at the very least.
The average Salary for a teacher is something like 50K not counting Benefits... which almost all of them get.
I mean 50K for 9 months work I wouldn't call underpaid... espeically when most classes the same syllabus and assignments can be used year after year.
These numbers are straight from the AFT by the way. (American Federation of Teachers.)
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Pay + Benefits =/= Pay.
When you get employed for say, 10 bucks an hour, the employer also has to pay workman's comp and insurance and whatever, so it may end up being more like 20 bucks an hour that the employer has to dish out.
A teacher may probably more realistically see 40k of that in actual pay (before taxes); but I suppose they do get a killer insurance plan. (Not sure just speculating)
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50K according to the AFT like I said.
Besides benefits are more important then pay half the time... cause you often get so much more in value then their listed cost.
The only way to claim teachers are underpaid are to compare then to other degrees that take similar length in schooling like Marine Biology while ignoring the fact that said degrees are harder.
