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vizunary said:

so your telling me that johnlucas chiming in on how "MGS4 will not go to the PS3" or happysquirrel simply stopping by to say "i always said it would flop" are somehow constructive arguments in a sales discussion?


John Lucas deals with predictions, and he like anyone else is entitled to their prediction. Your decision to take such offense to such his prediction was your own choice. People predict constantly that the Wii will be a fad, but no one has taken as much issue with that as the Sony fans of this site have taken with John Lucas over the MGS4 prediction. Grow up. Happysquirrel's comment could have been worded better, but if he made a prediction he has every right to call crow on it, that's how we do things around here. These really aren't the terribly best examples for your argument nor do they justify your behavior in this thread.

Your tendancy to snap at people with little or no projocation doesn't exactly play to your defense either. 

vizunary said:

many posters seem "giddy" at the sound of anything negative about the PS3, these are the people i was referring to and they know who they are. i feel that my reasoning for this incessant negativeness about the PS3 is exactly what i posted before.

It would appear many Sony fans on this forum seem to "feel" that if anyone has anything negative to say about the Ps3 they clearly must be happy about it. But this defense has been getting used too much for too long to be justified as what you claim it is anymore. In the end it seems to have become little more than an excuse for you and others to attack those who say things you don't like about Sony.

vizunary said:

i never said this game was god's gift... i always said it would be visually impressive and fun, so it lived up to my expectations thus far.

And no one was questioning your satisfaction of a game you don't even own or its value as a game irregardless its sales. Most of us think it was a good game. All that was being discussed here was sales.

vizunary said:

and sorry but i think it's only fair to use hollywood's generally excepted definition of a flop, a project that lost money...

That's your opinion and your entitled to it, and I respect that, but don't expect others to share it or be angry at them for holding their own definitions.

vizunary said:

FF: the spirits within was a flop, HS is not quite a flop as of yet, they didn't even pull waterworld out of theaters the 1st weekend, they let it suck for awhile...

From your standpoint that's valid, but in the end you're just making excuses for why people don't accept your opinion over their own. Your opinion isn't even a bad one, it's a good argument but If this was the real issue then you could have just made your response discussing this instead of just lashing out at people.

vizunary said:

btw, my feelings aren't hurt... i'm drinking =)

I would be too if I were you.