What are the worst cliches in JRPGs?

[zexen_lowe]

Jordahn said:

salaminizer said:

SmokedHostage said:

Bosses that you're supposed to lose to.

Androgynous Males.

Woman only using magic or bows/ranged attacks.

Someone in your party double-crossing you about halfway thru.

Love Interests that constantly need saving.

this one.

and worse, they betray you, then they come back and everyone's happy!

also, beating a boss once (in a f***ng long battle), then after the battle you see that YOU'RE almost dying and the boss(es) is(are) alright. You beat them again and this time.. they die? OH MY! HELLO BATEN KAITOS, I'M TALKING TO YOU!

Comment on Suikoden IV...

SPOILER ALERT!!

The main character's best friend (Snow) betrayed the main character.  Later, Snow was destituted and you could accept or not accept his return.  I accepted his return but refused to put the butt hole back in my party.  Got to the end of the game, but couldn't beat the final boss.  According to guides I read, it was strongly recommended to have Snow in the party so Snow and the main character could perform an effective "buddy attack."  I called bull on this one and decided to one day play through the game again with higher lever character at the final boss.  One day... One day...

I've always though that Snowe was an excellent character, very well developed with his emotions very well explained. For me, he was the best character in the (rather mediocre) Suikoden IV cast