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dsister44 on 25 March 2009
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IllegalPaladin said:
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i was kind of hoping that this bill would be passed. i mean twelve year olds should not be playing grand theft auto.

I hope you're being sarcastic because the bill would try and destroy the progress gained by the ESRB and retailers to inform customers of the ratings and content in games.

The bill is really just a waste of taxpayer's money that would most likely get struck down in court.

 

how would it destroy the progress of the esrb? all this would do is fine gamestop(anybody) that whenever they sell a m rated game to a minor. they already do it for tobacco and alchohol, why should they be any different.

And look how that has worked in the other attempts of the lawmakers (most, if not, all of them have failed. Usually by being shot down as unconstitutional). 

This bill will fine the stores for selling an m-rated game to a minor, but that's only if the store advertises that they don't sell m-rated games to minors. Thus, stores wont get into trouble with this bill if they don't bother with ratings anymore, which undermines the whole idea of having ratings to begin with. Now, retailers could potentially still enforce the ratings, but they wouldn't be able to talk about it, but what constitutes as advertising the ratings? 

The bill is pointless overall. In fact, the FTC found that minors were only able to purchase m-rated games 20% of the time in a secret shopper study which was down from 40% from 2006. Sure, Gamestop led the pack probably because they were a video game oriented store, but the point is that the video game industry and retailers are doing a heck of a job in trying to keep inappropriate content away from minors. In fact, the same study shows that the secret shoppers were able to buy r-rated movie tickets 35% of the time, r-rated DVD's 47% of the time, unrated DVD's 50% of the time, and PAL (parental advisory label) rated music 56% of the time.

Yes, I would agree that more can be done to try and keep retailers and parents informed about the ratings of games, but the laws that have been written are a step backwards in this effort.

 

 

the esrb wont stop rating games for this reason. or did you forget the fact that the big three will not, let any game on there systems that are not rated. this bill is good for the industry, it will shut up alot of the people that say videogames are for children.anyways the kids will still get there games they will just run to mommy and she will flash there id and there kid gets the new grand theft auto.

I've not said anything about the ESRB stopping their rating process.

This bill is going after the retailers. I'm saying that it's easy for a store to get off the hook of this bill because of the way it's written. The part that the industry is concerned with is that is the bill would go after retailers who advertise that they use the rating system (ie - not sell the game to a child because the ESRB has rated the game for people 17 and up) and if a store stops doing that, they could not only sell a game to a minor and not get into trouble from this bill, but they wouldn't be able to inform people about the ratings because that could fall under advertising.

 

 

 

i see your point. but i still believe this bill is a good thing. do you really believe that this will do any damage to the esrb? this is how the goverment works, they pass a bill then they add amendments to to it later.