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mesoteto said:
jv103 said:
I don't believe in "rights." So I don't think people have a right to anything. I thought it was quite funny that you did, and continue to, use anecdotes as evidence. That's why its funny. I realize that people abuse welfare. Just like people abuse anything that is given, or at times, earned.

While, I do believe that poverty becomes facilitated and lengthened by welfare, it is in the state's interest to keep its population healthy. It has nothing to do with 'rights.'

I think California has a problem with welfare, because California accounts for 34% of the Welfare in the United States (Welfare limits should be enforced). I don't disagree with your logic.

I checked out Health and Human Services .gov in fiscal 2008 about 4.0 million per month people received some welfare benefits. According to the website, 3.0 million of the 4.0 million receiving benefits were children. Interesting, I wonder how they classify the money as going to the children when it has to go through the parents?



 

That’s not true, every one has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

 

The problem is b/c of how society is brain washing us everyone thinks in a “me” mentality that means your only have rights as long as they don’t effect me and I should get every ting I feel I am entitled to regardless if you get it and doubly regardless if I have earned it

 

Andwhat compounds the probem is that good people that want to help are doing t the wrong way,  instead of a hand out it really need to become a hand up

 

How can they at one point be called inalienable rights and then can only be revoked in the 14th ammendment by due process but that doesn't even matter 'cause the constitution can be put on hold during war or times of turmoil. A rightof life would entail the government taking action to preserve life.

Society has been brainwashing people with a 'me' mentality? I thought this thread was started on the premise that taxation was too high?

If those rights were rights, then the government would be accountable for so much more. There genereal guidelines, maybe even ideals, but not rights in the way you seem to be presenting them. Although, I think we will have to remain in disagreement on this one. I wish we had inalienable rights, but we don't.